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Two Brothers Philosophers Stone

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903.34/5.03.3/5.0Special8.5%40.4Tulip
Commercial Description:
It is a ~8.5% ABV Black Saison. We fermented it with a Belgian saison yeast until it hit about 7% then we added our house ale yeast to finish it. Once it was done fermenting, we added it to new American oak barrels with a medium-heavy toast. Then we spiked it with Brettanomyces Bruxellensis. The "Brett" is an isolated culture from Belgium that gives the classic barnyard, horse blanket character and pleasing tartness to lambic style beers. The tartness is mild but noticeable and adds a wonderful complexity to the beer. In alchemy, Philosopher's Stone is a reference to the substance believed to be able to turn metal into gold. Similarly, we believe we have taken a normal beer style and turned it into something extraordinary.
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 KAF (441), Coralville, Iowa, USA
3.9 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
8/104/58/103/516/20
Sep 27, 2007  
This was a suprisingly good beer. Very dark in color. Not much head. Slightly malty aroma. The oak was not quite as prevalent as I thought it would be.


 wetherel (1628), Encinitas, California, USA
3.8 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
7/104/57/103/517/20
Sep 23, 2007  
Bomber tasted at Saarlander’s SoCal tasting with saarlander, cquiroga, dirty_martini & kittiesandbeer, JohnC and others. Dark black color. Small bubble head. Carmelized malt + melanoidin + slighty funky aroima. Prett cool aroma. Nice beer.


 kp (8396), Woodstock, Georgia, USA
3.2 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
7/104/56/103/512/20
Sep 1, 2007  
Date: 04/18/2007
Mode: Bottle
Source: Tasting

clear dark brown, scant head, huge funky malt aroma with lots of barnyard character and a slight tartness, dark malt flavor, lots of tartness, musty character is well balanced with the dark malts, light woody character,

Aroma: 7/10; Appearance: 7/10; Flavor: 6/10; Palate: 6/10; Overall: 12/20
Rating: 3.2/5.0
Drinkability: 7/10
Score: *4


 xmarcnolanx (798), Kirkwood, Missouri, USA
3.4 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
7/103/57/103/514/20
Aug 1, 2007  
This is pretty good. I think it has something to do with the fact that it is a year old. It is ia little vegetal. It pours slightly dark and dark malty, but not a very good head. Apparently, it smells like a little dirty puss- but actually, it is just a nice, sour brett smell. The brett has really come out on this beer and made it much more palatable than the original- which is kind of like Ommegeddon fresh. Anyway, the beer tastes sour and refreshing. Not much to this beer complexity-wise, but it is pretty good. Finishes clean and nice.


 xnoxhatex (1305), Grand Rapids/Chicago, Michigan, USA
3.9 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
8/103/58/103/517/20
Jul 29, 2007  
22 oz purchased at discount liqour. Almost opaque dark brown with some ruby glow and little to no head. Nice fruity, yeasty aroma. NIce brett, sour flavor with oaky-woody taste. Med body with light carb. Very nice, I find that the different times that I have tried this beer that I have liked it more than others.


 shadey (1500), Rochester, New York, USA
3.4 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
6/103/56/103/516/20
Jul 25, 2007  
22oz bottle with at least 7 months of age. The pour is very dark almost black, but the red appears when it is held up to the light. The head consists of a white ring of tight white bubbles and some tiny wisps on the glass and on the surface of the beer. The first thing I notice in the aroma is the obvious presence of the brett. I’m having a tough time picking out other elements, perhaps some milk chocolate and maybe some fruitiness also from the brett. Unfortunately I think the "black" nature of this saison hides the true funkiness that brett can impart and all that is left is the fruity sourness. Tasting it actually provides quite a bit more to the experience. The initial hit is the sourness but there is also some oak, some of the chocolate, more of the fruit, and more of a sweet malt that I don’t expect nor appreciate in a beer that is trying to be a saison. The finish is dry, but there isn’t that refreshing funkiness or the appropriate wheat character. I’m intrigued but a little disappointed. I’m not entirely sure what I was expecting. I’d say this is more like an abbey dubbel with some brett character that has had time to dry out.


 1FastSTi (2560), Glendale, Wisconsin, USA
3.8 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
8/103/58/104/515/20
Jul 16, 2007  
Thanks Chuck. Pours to a dark cola colored body with a thin gray/tan head. The aroma is quite interesting with nice notes of oak, chocolate, saison yeasts, and tart Brettanomyces. The flavor is very saison-like with tart cherries and oak up front with a dry wood and saison yeast and malt on the backend. Almost a bit musty at times but that’s barely noticeable. The palate is dry and viscous with notes of sweetness at times. I liked this one.


 MIBRomeo (1965), Wisconsin, USA
3 Aroma Appearance Flavor Palate Overall
7/103/56/103/511/20
Jul 16, 2007  
Pours a dark brown color w/ a small whispy tan head and not much lacing. Aroma has the lightly tart fruits to it you expect from brett but it is a bit overwhelmed by the roast character some light leather and vanilla aromas come through as well. Palate is tart & well coated lacks any real thickness though. Flavor is a bit of tart fruitiness some dry oak hints of raisen and a small amoutn of dry roasty coffee. It’s ok.. not stellar by any means.



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