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let me also add a 750ml (or anything smaller) over 20 bucks is to much.
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As soon as I can, I am going to buy a bottle of this. I know it’s stupid, but I see it as a companion piece to Pete Brown’s book about the beer (Hops and Glory). I can’t possibly imagine reading the book and not trying the beer. Though, $30 is pushing the limits!
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I think it just hurts the people that think the beer they brew commands that kind of money. Some of those may be weak dollar + importing, but for the US companies that are doing it, having your bottles sit on a shelf doesn’t look nearly as good as having your stuff sell out in a week.
Having tried almost all of the italian beers, I can safely say maybe 2 are worth the money, and those happen to be sub $10 beers. A $25 belgian wit? Seriously? It’s a pretty good wit, but I could get a comparable american version for $18 less and have a six pack.
Some beers can sell at the $20-40 range. Cantillon and 3 font sell out very quickly in our shop, yet we’ve had the 05 super baladin at the same price point sitting for 4 years. Go figure.
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Atlantic IPA was actually released in June (even if it has taken a while for it to hit the shelves in the US) so it may be that James’ posts about distribution were after the arrangements for Atlantic were fixed.
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I hate the weather in NI I love the cold but there is too much bloody rain
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The point of this thread is to discuss whether or not expensive beer (I guess where you live that would be $20+ bottles of beer) are hurting the beer industry, but since you all would rather split hairs...
Let me preface this by asking you to read the blurb attached to slide 5 here (it’s very short for those of you who do not like to read):
http://money.aol.com/retirement/worst-places-to-retire
On top of that, CT has ridiculous label laws, and raises the tax on beer whenever the state has any kind of budget deficit.
My mill rate is the second highest in the U.S. With 2 neighboring towns ranking 1, and 3 in the US. Lower CT is also the heaviest per capita taxed region in the U.S.
That said,
3F Doesjel, Hommage, Frambozenbier are all over $30 off the top of my head. Cantillon Fou Foune (2 vintage), Lambrinvs, and Cuvee Des Champions. So maybe that’s 3 and 4 instead, Mr. Semantics. 
Thanks to the 3 tiered system and how both label laws and taxes are set up in CT, it is much more expensive to do business here. I’m assuming you’ve hung out with Casey before. He should be able to tell you just how much the tax system and alcohol laws are fucked up in CT and they’ve gotten even worse in the years since he moved to CA. A brewer can either self-distribute (physically to each store), or sign a lifetime contract with the distributors that are in my state. Once they sign that lifetime contract, they can no longer self-distribute. I have no idea how CA is set up, but here, there are FOUR/b] distributors in my entire state and only TWO can do business in my area. They can do whatever they want with a brewer’s beers once that contract is signed and routinely drop labels without cause. It’s a miracle anyone is willing to distribute beer in CT given how much it sucks and how expensive it is to do business here.
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Now back to the original topic, let me rephrase it for those who are more interested in being annoying assholes than discussing anything of relevance related to beer:
Are $30-40 $20-30 bottles hurting the industry?
Happy?
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Whci 3 from 3F, if they cost that much you must have some serious bad boys there?
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I know that B. United pays full retail on some of the labels they import when they buy them in Denmark, which accounts for the higher price point, but have never been able to figure out why the Italian and some Swedish imports are so damn expensive. Who is going to pay even $15 for a bomber of Bohemian Pilsner from an Italian brewer that’s probably sat in a warehouse for several months waiting to clear all the red tape?
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