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Define "gyle" for me


read 457 times | 15 replies | posted 5/16/2008 9:15:42 PM
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 P  Immy 1559:72
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’ve seen the term before - what, exactly , does it mean? I’ve seen party gyle beer at Willimantic, and some refrences to brewing without sparging. Help?

Big reason: I am drinking a Woodforde’s Norfolk Nog, and the only mark says "Gyle No. L242"
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 P  Immy 1559:72
Googling yielded this:

" What is an English Mild you ask? Well, the beginnings of this style were quite humble, so humble that when it first hit the scene it was simply known as an “ale” with no unique name or descriptive. It first made it’s way into the English drinking society (of the working class) around the early 19th century. Also around this time was a very common brewing method was known as the “Party Gyle” method. This was well before the practice of sparging was known. In the Party Gyle method, a loose mash was drained for the first runnings of a strong beer, usually some sort of Porter. Then the mash was rehydrated for a second running and a second style of beer, usually a Brown Ale. And finally rehydrated a third time for the English mild. So you can see that this is a close cousin to a Porter and even a closer cousin to an English Brown Ale. Mild ales is designed to be a session beer, one full of flavor and body, yet relatively low in alcohol which also you to enjoy an extra pint or two without fall off your chair."
5/16/2008 9:17:25 PM

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 P  npdempse 932:15
fwiw, I tend to see this spelled as partigyle or parti-gyle.

Nice article by Mosher:
http://www.brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue2.2/ mosher.html
5/16/2008 9:36:13 PM

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 P  jjpm74 2945:129
Give Anchor Small a try. It’s an example of this method of brewing. 5/16/2008 9:39:04 PM

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 P  jjpm74 2945:129
FWIW, Willimantic party gyle is closer to a bitter, but I can see why you listed it as an amber when you added it to the DB. 5/16/2008 9:42:07 PM

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 P  Immy 1559:72
Originally posted by npdempse
fwiw, I tend to see this spelled as partigyle or parti-gyle.

Nice article by Mosher:
http://www.brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue2.2/ mosher.html


Very interesting! Thanks for the link.

So, since I’m no homebrewer, this is basically getting more than one run from a batch of ingredients, with each successive batch a bit weaker than the one before?
5/16/2008 9:43:25 PM

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 P  Immy 1559:72
Originally posted by jjpm74
FWIW, Willimantic party gyle is closer to a bitter, but I can see why you listed it as an amber when you added it to the DB.


Yeah, I was kinda split on it, and pretty much guessed. I had some last week and actually like it better than I rated. Maybe time for a re-rate... David certainly brews some interesting beers, style be damned! LOL
5/16/2008 9:46:08 PM

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 P  jjpm74 2945:129
Originally posted by Immy
Originally posted by npdempse
fwiw, I tend to see this spelled as partigyle or parti-gyle.

Nice article by Mosher:
http://www.brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue2.2/ mosher.html


Very interesting! Thanks for the link.

So, since I’m no homebrewer, this is basically getting more than one run from a batch of ingredients, with each successive batch a bit weaker than the one before?


That’s basically the high and low of it. In the old days, it wasn;t uncommon to try to get 3 runnings off one 1 bed of grains.

The most I’ve personally done is two with a local HBC. We made a barleywine then used the grain to make a mild ale.
5/16/2008 9:48:27 PM

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Gazza 720:116
In the UK a gyle is taken to be a "batch" - i.e, each individual brew is a different gyle hence we get casks with "gyle 332" on them and suchlike; it helps brewers to trace problems if, say, they get an infected batch. Gyle and Batch are basically the same thing here.

Partigyle is when the same mash is used to make more than one unique beers from it, either as "second runnings" or, commonly, as liquoring down the finished beer to make different strength brews as done by lots of brewers in the UK such as Arkells (2B, 3B and Kingsdown are all the same brew).
5/18/2008 10:15:22 AM

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 P  KrausenJockey 189:2
As I learned in brewing school, the word "gyle" was simply unfermented cooled wort that is reserved from a batch to use for Kraeusening prior to bottling or doing a cask conditioning. Just think of it as bottle priming sugar but composed of wort sugars. I believe the vinegar makers actually refer to the gyle as the fermented wort prior to conversion to vinegar, what we call beer.hmmm... 5/18/2008 1:56:17 PM

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 P  TheRealBastard 94:3
its the military guy on street fighter!wink 5/18/2008 2:23:00 PM

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