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  ad my first bottle on my birthday last night. Not quite sure what to think. The review page here says its 120 IBU’s, but the one I had wasn’t close to that. In fact, it was so "not bitter" that I question it being an IPA at all. Very thick, very sweet, complex and tons of alcohol, but very little bitterness. Did I get a bad bottle? I also see they reduced the ABV to 18% this year. Could that have reduced the bitterness? Help me out here.
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you got a bad bottle, but that’s how they all are.
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Yea... it’s pretty deceptive, and I hear this from people all the time. It is not an IPA.
Bitterness is relative to sweetness and this beer is super sweet. It is a barley wine... the IPA designation on the label is cute but just amounts to trickery with the everyday craft beer explorer.
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Like drinking pine tar.
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You drank it too fresh. 120 needs some time to let the malts balance out and bring the hops to the front. Grab another and drink it in 2 more years.
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IBU is not the same as bitterness. IBU is the amount of alpha acid in the beer, but the perceived bitterness will be a function of the alpha acid relative to the residual sweetness, so in a very high gravity beer like that, the massive sweetness that is normal for that style will overwhelm the hops. It has an extreme hopping rate but it is not overly hoppy in flavor and not an IPA.
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Look up either marketing scheme or under-attenuation in the encyclopedia- they’ll be a pic of 120min or Sam Cal.
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what about devil dancer which claims over 200+ IBU’s? great beer however.
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Fixed your post for you.
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Sounds like an older bottle where the hops have faded, that said the 10/05/2009 batch seems to be a little bit maltier and a little bit less hoppy than normal...
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This will always be a favorite of mine. Hops for dessert? Yes please!
This is one that made me realize I will always be drawn to pretty sweet beers. And it is uniquely hopped, I don’t think any other beer has hop qualities the way 120 does. Whether that’s good or bad depends on you, but I really enjoy the aroma/flavor hops on this.
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