Microwaving Lobster

Originally posted by danielst

Originally posted by DerWeg
Sorry didn’t mean that about you specifically. I meant generally the drug company/food industry notion that isolated compounds should work exactly as they would as naturally occurring - and this despite millions of years to engineer the naturally occurring material, and our species along with it, presumably each adapted to the other.

Just to put a thread that’s gone way off-topic even more off-topic: humans are naturally not "perfectly" adapted to their environment. It is civilisation, and therefore also control over nature in some way, that extends human life expectancy significantly. A positive example of an "isolated compound" added to food that comes to my mind immediately is iodised salt.

Originally posted by DerWeg

Originally posted by danielst

Originally posted by DerWeg
Sorry didn’t mean that about you specifically. I meant generally the drug company/food industry notion that isolated compounds should work exactly as they would as naturally occurring - and this despite millions of years to engineer the naturally occurring material, and our species along with it, presumably each adapted to the other.

Just to put a thread that’s gone way off-topic even more off-topic: humans are naturally not "perfectly" adapted to their environment. It is civilisation, and therefore also control over nature in some way, that extends human life expectancy significantly. A positive example of an "isolated compound" added to food that comes to my mind immediately is iodised salt.

All i can say is - FAIL.

Salt is NOT a biochemical compound like an amino acid or an enzyme. It is not carbon-based. It is about the only solid thing we eat that cannot be reduced to carbon if exposed to prolonged heat. Why the heck is iodized salt so great?? Because it prevents the uptake of radioactive iodine from the free environment?? True, that may prevent thyroid problems, but so may the consumption of seaweed like kelp, or other naturally-occurring sources of iodine.

The main reason we have processed salt is that it will run free from salt shakers. It’s not to make us healthy. it’s to make an industry of food production run smoothly.

Originally posted by DaSilky1
Anyone that says microwaving anything is best is stupid. There’s a lot more to cooking than giving your guests cancer.

Originally posted by JoeMcPhee
Iodized salt is used to prevent goiter. It was a very common problem in inland/third world areas before the development of iodized salt, because most people do not get sufficient amounts of iodine directly from their diet. I suppose you’re against calcium too, because you can take it in the form of Tums? It’s worth noting that you can easily make non-iodized salt that flows from salt shakers... you just add an anti-clumping agent (not iodine, usually sodium aluminosilicate). You’re quite the piece of work, but you should try learning about which you speak, before actually speaking about it.

Originally posted by DerWeg

Originally posted by JoeMcPhee
Iodized salt is used to prevent goiter. It was a very common problem in inland/third world areas before the development of iodized salt, because most people do not get sufficient amounts of iodine directly from their diet. I suppose you’re against calcium too, because you can take it in the form of Tums? It’s worth noting that you can easily make non-iodized salt that flows from salt shakers... you just add an anti-clumping agent (not iodine, usually sodium aluminosilicate). You’re quite the piece of work, but you should try learning about which you speak, before actually speaking about it.

All very interesting, and appreciated. Should I be worried about aluminosilicate in salt as well given the Alzheimer’s implications of aluminum found in patients’ brains? And Tums WITH aluminum as a ’heartburn remedy’... I know a few people who just don’t take proper care.

I would not be against the Tums calcium itself, but the poor (and tragic) understanding of their digestion people employ in using Tums. Neutralizing stomach acid as a habit doesn’t really help, adjusting eating habits would, correct?? Calcium I guess is needed - isn’t that another problem, that our bones will up-take environmental lead just as readily as calcium, particularly if we neglect calcium? The body can’t chemically differentiate the two, so our bones get these toxic lead deposits that are extremely difficult to reverse using chelation therapy.

Re goiter, I had actually mentioned thyroid cancer in relation to radioactive iodine uptake from the environment, which I think is a separate problem of the same organ, both connected to iodine. Not enough "healthy" iodine, body more prone to absorb the other. Not also true?? I think I had misunderstood the intent of adding the iodine.

Relevant because someone I know has just been diagnosed with a sizable thyroid ’lump’, to be soon excised, possibly cancer but not yet known. I think if/when I get cancer I would try strict macrobiotic diet as part of my regimen. Supposedly cancer doesn’t thrive in an extremely alkaline environment - and of course our Western diets are heavy with things like sugar, meat and alcohol, acid-forming foods. There has been found a cultural correlation of diet and cancer incidence, and a rise in incidence with cultures adapting a more ’western’ diet. Would appreciate your thoughts on my friend’s possible cancer treatment and/or whether you know about macrobiotics.

Thanks!

Originally posted by JoeMcPhee
So you resurrected a long dead thread to post more uneducated stupidity? Congrats. I don’t have the time to respond, but suffice it to say, you’re wrong about almost everything you’ve posted.