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New Top 50 beer from Struise


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Odeed 1677:14
Originally posted by acrdz
Originally posted by puzzl
I deeply apologize for starting this


that’s a stabbing.


if it bothers you that much,dont click on the post.see how easy that is?

*cheers
12/30/2008 10:08:36 PM

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glennc :0
Originally posted by Cletus
Originally posted by urbeer
Then you have to delete 80% of our beers because none whatsoever is available in a Belgium pub, even the most deserted one. Most of our production is sold abroad. If Glenn talks about the White horse, that is one of the most popular pubs in London. You will find more of our beer in Tokyo than in Belgium, am I to blame?

We cannot help it that Belgian pubs or distributors do not want to buy our beers. Well, there are some exceptions like Kulminator, Beertje, Erasmus, Cambrinus, Visscherie, Dendyver, etc... but that’s it.

Gentlemen, we just are more appreciated abroad, that’s it... in the meantime we try to be creative every single day. Sometimes we succeed, sometimes we don’t, but at least we try, just for the sake of bringing you good artisan beer. Cheers, Urbain




All of your beers except for this 1 new beer is somehow distributed to the public, somewhere, correct? That makes them all commercially available. This new beer you admit has not been made available to the public only to a few friends. That is not commercially available.

And yes, it is awesome that you guys like to experiment. Keep it up!


But Cuvée Delphine is available for sale in our beershop. Two bottles of 1,5 l has been sold. It was also available in a for public open tasting, we have them every two weeks in our brewery. We not only taste our beers, but also beers from collegues such as Struise. Last tasting was with beers from Abbaye des Rocs, some are easier to find in the States then in Belgium.

Anyhow, I think that makes Cuvée Delphine commercial available.

Glenn c
12/31/2008 3:58:49 AM

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Jeppe 2638:85
Originally posted by glennc
But Cuvée Delphine is available for sale in our beershop.


I can’t find it there?

Happy new year!
Jeppe
12/31/2008 4:05:50 AM

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eclectic :0
Originally posted by Cletus
Who gives a shit what is in the top 50 and what isnt or why? There are maybe 20 people on the entire site that go out of their way to sample every beer in the top 50. The other 99.9% of us drink what we like.


There’s a top 50 list?
12/31/2008 4:53:17 AM

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cgarvieuk 4201:24
Originally posted by Cletus
Originally posted by Oakes
Seems to me that some people define "commercially available" as being a beer they can go get at the store, or at their favourite killer beer bar. Not so.


Commercially available=available for public consumption. Not available at the brewery for a few select friends to try if you ask really nicely. That is called homebrew or an experiment.

How is the beer in question commercially available? What did I miss that makes this beer a ratable beer? I am curious since to the best of my knowledge, this beer has not been made available to the public. Not even at some local Belgian pub in the middle of nowhere.


Seem to me that Struises bigest problem is they didnt charge for some of these beers

Ive seen threads where they have held and open day at the farm, for any one to turn up and try the beers.

So they have been available to anyone who could make it to the farm on the day specifed.



SO its difficult for most people to get these beer, but the same true for the 2 non bottled versions of Darklord.

Not every one is going to have access to all beers, and as for the suggestion that a beer not make the top50 unless and american has had it.

That strike me as all thats wrong with America. WHY. Why sould a beer need US approval to ne a great Beer.

Feel free to add Criteria like that but make sure that all countires have teh same right. SO no beer can be in the top 50 till someone from every country has tried it.

12/31/2008 5:16:46 AM

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Fin 3452:97
Originally posted by JAXSON
Originally posted by badbeer
Originally posted by Odeed
Originally posted by Oakes
Seems to me that some people define "commercially available" as being a beer they can go get at the store, or at their favourite killer beer bar. Not so. Anywhere is anywhere and if that place happens to be in Belgium at some pub then so be it.


but a small brewery in s.d. doesn’t.even when growlers were sold.
i guess i just think fair should be fair.either bring the shit back or take out the two struises in mention.(and any other beer that falls in this category)
its pretty simple really.


They sold growlers of The Shit? If they did, I’m jealous of those lucky enough to have gotten one.

I still can’t be on your side for using Dirty Horse as a comparison to The Shit because (as far as I can tell) a big part of The Shit being eliminated is due to the fact that the difference between it and regular Speedway was the coffee used. It would be like making another listing for Dirty Horse if they switched from (XYZ) cherries to Schaerbeekse cherries for a batch.


Like this one?
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/3-fonteinen-schaerbeekse-kriek/24 383/

I posit that a beer should be bottled to be considered for rating purposes.


An interesting idea but speaking from a UK perspective if a beer had to be bottled for rating purposes then you would just about wreck most of the UK ratings, as cask beers are pretty much the lifeblood and be all and end all of the UK beer market.
12/31/2008 6:20:28 AM

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JoeinUccle 911:138
Originally posted by cgarvieuk

That strike me as all thats wrong with America. WHY. Why sould a beer need US approval to ne a great Beer.



Because we’re the deciders.
12/31/2008 6:22:29 AM

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urbeer 40:4
I guess that the biggest problem that can lead to frustration, and above discussion, is not to be able to get or buy a certain beer. As long it is not a top 50 beer it is never a problem, once it gets in there, problems arise. Maybe it is time to level up to minimum 200 ratings before a beer can hit the top 50, and all problems would be solved, I guess.

We sincerely hope that we will be able to solve a lot of the availability issue with the coming of our shop, if not, all positive ideas are welcome. We have a very good ear for every solution a consumer might bring.

Yesterday, I f..k.d up with the zeros, I probably had a beer too much. Production for 2008 is 240.000 bottles and not 2.400.000, big difference and probably the most important reason why availability is scarce. I can believe and understand a lot of people are not happy, such a production result is just a drop on a hot plate.

But I can assure everybody we are working very hard to get more bottles on the streets, however Rome was not build in a day. It took Struise 7 years to get to today’s results, and it will probably take us another hell of a lot more time before we can satisfy everyone. But as I said in the past, we try every day with high quality as our primary standard. This is not a commercial strategy however, but you would not like Struise beers any more if we were to go really commercial.

So we thank everybody for their patience, and their love for the beer. Sometimes discussions can get very hot over here, but that means Ratebeer is alive and kicking, no matter what country a ratebeerian is from.

We thank everybody for the fantastic ride we had this year, this merely due to your love for high quality artisan beer. Have a Happy ending 2008, and may 2009 bring you love, health, work and a lot more fantastic beers to find.

Cheers to all of you and thanks again, Urbain
12/31/2008 6:41:29 AM

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hopscotch 5510:152
Makes me wish I could afford a trip to Europe right about now! 12/31/2008 6:42:32 AM

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urbeer 40:4
Originally posted by JoeinUccle
Originally posted by cgarvieuk

That strike me as all thats wrong with America. WHY. Why sould a beer need US approval to ne a great Beer.



Because we’re the deciders.


+1 LOL, however some decisions lead to the actual world economic and financial crisis. I sincerely hope the level of decision makers gets an upgrade or chaos could be in reach real soon. :-) cheers, Urbain
12/31/2008 6:51:05 AM

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