Den Bierzolder, shop within Alvinne brewery. Approximatly 200 beers, but the list on the website www.alvinne.be needs updating.
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That’s what they say in order to get more people to DLD. But then they have to show off at the regional festivals, especially The Great Taste where all of the other regional breweries show off their best stuff.
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Maybe one day i’ll make it across :-}
the Few time i have been to the US was before i knew of the site. So while i did drink lots of Craft beer. Ive no idea what it was, but there was good and bad in what i tried.
but with kids aged 3 and 4, there just a bit small to drag to a festival and the round trip is just a bit long to head off without the wife. Who would not be impressed at me going to the US to drink beer for 2 days without her.
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Hello,
I would say it is even an essential move.
At least it would eliminate >friends<favouring.
What I want to say. Imagine a small artisanal brewery makes a beer, and makes that beer available at VERY small scale at only a few shops (it is commercially available then). Invite friends(ratebeerians)and let them taste as firsts (for example, at a LCRBM). Imagine 20 friends vote maximum scores. This beer will immediately reach the Ratebeer top 50 !
Moving the amount to 200 would certainly give a more honest figure.
my 2 cents.
Cheers,
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But not the >>default<<setting !
Cheers,
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This has already been debated to no end! The cut off limit for making the top 50 is there to prevent fraud. The Bayesian weightings are there to assure that beers with few number of ratings will need to have extremely high ratings to get into the top 50, and it is a much better tool for doing this than the cutoff limit.
If there is a consensus that it is too easy for beers with low number of ratings to get into top 50, then change the the parameters in the Bayesian weightings.
If there is a suspicion that fraud or manipulation is behind a top 50 entry, notify the admins.
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has anyone actually looked to see how often the first 10 rating put a beer in top50 but then once the wider population go after it, it disappears out of top100.
I think that would give us an idea that maybe its too easy for a small group to overhype a beer.
I suspect it not that often.
The big problem with the debate of this , and it happens every so often, is that NO system is perfect and will please every one, plus there no mechanism to close it off. no clear way to show a consus.
Mind you the sites not a democracy. And be thank full for that or we be voting on something every day, quickly get tired of that and then we would soon find one group or another managing to change all sort of things.
Still i never tire of the discussion and there always new users who want to understand the system better.
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Hi Per,
in our case and some other breweries, some beers just get to quickly in the top50. Honestly, and with 10 ratings only, it just does not look serious, and the system neither.
If it is such a problem to put the default to 200, maybe one could consider bringing that to 25 or 50 for starters. It would avoid a lot of fuzz, buzz, and returning heated up discussions, and more of that. Greetz & cheers, Urbain
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+1
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). 
. Well, we’ve been brewing for 5 years, and only a few of our beers have been rated over 50 times. Only one, Podge, hits +200. If we want to get to 100, it’s only possible if we export to the US. Some beers however are in such small batches (e.g. Podge Bourgogne Barrel Oak Aged, only 2 220 l barrels will be bottled), they probably never will get exported or if they do, no-one in Belgium will be able to taste them. 
