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Sugar in Belgian Strong Darks (recipe ideas)


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absolutesites 2:0
Originally posted by WisconsinBeer
Originally posted by OldSock
Agreed, voodoo and luck mostly come into play when you fail to keep tabs on important details like gravity, pitching rates, temperature, sanitation, aeration amount, ingredient quality, recipes etc…


This is all true, but I think too many home brewers sweat the small details too much. As long as ingredients and yeast are quality, sanitation is good, and temperatures are kept in check the beer will be fine. I don’t even take gravity readings because I really don’t give a shit. That’s just how I roll.

Some may argue that the quality is bound to suffer by being somewhat careless, but I haven’t found that to be true at all. Common sense and a good dose of gut feeling goes a long ways. Not trying to start a pissing match here either, but I think that some homebrewers take things further than they need to. Micro-management, if you will.


All the stuff that you said is correct, but it was not what you said before.

Having quality ingredients and solid techiques are manditory, but not sweating the small stuff cannot be bought at your LHBS. It comes with experience. There are SO many myths out there in homebrewing that it’s difficult to REALLY know what is true and what is bunk. Once you’ve done something repeatedly with success, however, you can figure it out on your own.

FWIW, I don’t take OGs either, but that doesn’t mean that I’m careless. All that it means is that I am not that concerned about the EXACT ABV of my beer or my efficiency. Truthfully, FG is WAY more important anyway, because if you don’t take FGs you could be setting yourself up for a problem.
10/31/2009 8:25:41 AM

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A lot of comes down to how interested you are in repeatability, if you never brew the same thing twice and you don’t mind getting something other than you intended (b/c what we intend, sometimes isn’t as great as we think it will be), then it’s not a big deal. But repeatability can also be tied into quality. If I brew a recipe and write down every frickin little detail about my ingredients and process, as I do. When I’m drinking the product thinking, say, this could use a slightly stronger roast character, a little less residual sweetness, and little cleaner ester profile. I’m in good shape to rebrew and change those things. A few times of making little changes and you have just the beer you are looking for. That’s the magic.
10/31/2009 4:46:32 PM

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SamGamgee 1460:89
I just transferred this into secondary, and it is at 1.016. Tastes pretty good with nice fruity esters in the aroma and just a little hotter alcohol. It does taste pretty sweet though, so I’m hoping a few weeks in secondary will help it get down a few more points, though I don’t know how likely that it. The color is a honey-brown amber, and is a little lighter than I was going for, but now looking back I can see that I didn’t recalculate for the lower amount of special B that I put in and probably should have thrown a couple ounces of caraffa special to compensate. 11/17/2009 10:27:41 PM

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absolutesites 2:0
Originally posted by SamGamgee
I just transferred this into secondary, and it is at 1.016. Tastes pretty good with nice fruity esters in the aroma and just a little hotter alcohol. It does taste pretty sweet though, so I’m hoping a few weeks in secondary will help it get down a few more points, though I don’t know how likely that it.


Doubt that it’ll drop much, but it is at a decent FG anyway.

The sweetness and alcohol "problem" can be solved with some bulk and bottle conditining.

Originally posted by SamGamgee
The color is a honey-brown amber, and is a little lighter than I was going for, but now looking back I can see that I didn’t recalculate for the lower amount of special B that I put in and probably should have thrown a couple ounces of caraffa special to compensate.


This is why you keep good notes like Uncle Charlie told you to, right?

So that you can make this change next time around.
11/18/2009 4:26:55 AM

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Let the temps go a little higher in the secondary. Too low on the temps (60"s to low 70’s)
and you’ll end up with higher than acceptable banana and clove esters. Room temp, assuming your room is mid to high 70’s, will do best.
Also...Special B is usually not something found in commercial Belgian Strong Dark. Adds too much crystal malt profile, because that’s what it is. High kiln crystal malt. Up the dark sugar or make your own Spanish liquor from cane sugar for color and attenuation.

Either way, I’m sure it will be great.
With almost anything "Belgian", temperature is your friend, not enemy. Same can be said for under-pitching. Builds more esters early so the unwanted esters are more readily scrubbed off in an extended secondary. This helps develop the nice rummy, raisiny profile that normally eludes most homebrewed Belgian strongs.

Just my $0.02

11/18/2009 6:43:02 AM

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